RE: Sorting live human lymphocytes

From: McCoy, J. Philip (NIH/NHLBI) (McCoyJ@nhlbi.nih.gov)
Date: Fri Feb 21 2003 - 16:07:36 EST


 This post got me thinking a bit about this topic. Does anyone have any
first hand knowledge of an operator being infected from doing a sort of
human material? While I certainly advise universal precautions when handling
human specimens, I am not aware of any documented sort-related infections in
my 25 years of doing flow. If there are some, I think it would make an
interesting, and much needed, CDC report.

Phil

-----Original Message-----
From: J.Paul Robinson
To: cyto-inbox
Sent: 2/19/2003 9:04 PM
Subject: Sorting live human lymphocytes


Colleagues:

I would like to get input into the following issue - this has been
discussed
before, but I would like to put this topic into the summary page and I
also
need some advice.

There is a faculty member here who is insisting on sorting live human
lymphocytes from untested patients. His argument is that these are from
children or teenagers and therefore a low-risk group. He obtains the
mateirals
from a clinic and claims that he has no time to test the samples.

He is unbelievably insistent (my techs say he is rude and obnoxious) and
is
very upset that I have told him that I need some time to research this
issue to
see what we should do. Even after I stopped a sort from taking place
instructing my technicans not to sort the cells, he tried to convince
them to
sort after I left for a meeting!!

He claims that he has done dozens of similar live human sorts at several
major institutions (I am checking so I won't list the institutions
here!)

He claims that "many of the major papers in the immunology literature
sort live
human lymphocytes, so why can't you do that here? Other institutions do
it all
the time...."

Has anyone actually tracked the number of such sorts?

So my questions are the following:

1. What is your institution/lab policy on sorting live human materials?
2. Does your institution list this policy on a web site
3.  How many of these sorts do you do?
4. Do any of you have obnoxious faculty that treat your techs like dirt?
If not,
we have one you can have!

I will be happy to sumarize the discussion and post it to the new
summary
page at
http://www.cyto.purdue.edu/hmarchiv/cytomail.htm
"view Summaries" link

Regards
Paul Robinson
Purdue

J.Paul Robinson, PhD             PH:(765)4940757
Professor of Immunopharmacology
Professor of Biomedical Engineering
Purdue University          FAX:(765)4940517
EMAIL:jpr@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu
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