Re: The Importance of this Forum

From: janet dow (jldow@unity.ncsu.edu)
Date: Wed Dec 19 2001 - 09:26:36 EST


Thanks for saying so elequently what so many of us feel.

Janet Dow




At 2:39 PM -0500 12/17/01, Fred Menendez wrote:
> We in the Flow Cytometry community owe a debt of gratitude to Dr.
>Robinson and his staff for maintaining this web page as an invaluable tool
>to the practice of both clinical and research flow cytometry.  Its value
>cannot be over stated and should be considered precious.  My own
>initiation into this arcane field  will serve as an example of what I mean.
>
> I came into the field in 1989.  As a med tech whose primary experience
>was in hematology, the jump from Coulter counters (a type of flow
>cytometer) to an Ortho Spectrum 3 was going to be comparatively easy, or
>so I thought.  The problem was that at my place of employ there was
>virtually no one who knew much about flow theory, much less the
>particulars of this behemoth of an instrument.  Add to this the complexity
>of immunology and the CD nomenclature , I have to say with all honesty
>that I was fairly lost in my first few years in flow.  But I asked
>questions where I could, did a lot of reading (thanks Howard, your book
>was also invaluable), and stuck to it.  Eventually, I began getting more
>proficient in flow. My learning curve continued to grow when a new lab
>director, who had the vision and funds, got me a new FACScan.  This was
>about 1992.  At about the same time, as I made more connections in the
>field (sale reps, service reps, training in Manchester), I heard about the
>Purdue web site.  It was a god send.  From that day forward, I have used
>the web site as a source of information and insight. I've learned a great
>deal just subscribing to and browsing the email list.
>
> Since then I have been fortunate enough to have attended several flow
>meetings.  The most memorable one continues to be the 96' Charleston
>meeting.  As I attended these meetings and expanded my connections in the
>field (I was a founding member of NIAID's Flow Operators Users Group), one
>thing became very clear to me: the folks in the flow community are like no
>others in the greater scientific community.  Above all else, flow
>cytometrists are approachable!  They are also knowledgeable and willing to
>share that knowledge with others, especially new comers to the field.
>Being "only" a med tech, I cannot tell you how important that openness,
>uniqueness, and approachability has been to my growth in and, yes, my love
>of the field.  And the Purdue web site has been right at the center of
>keeping this an open and approachable community.
>
> Where else can one ask a question and reasonably expect to get an answer
>>from someone who very well might be one of the very top people in their
>field----- world wide?  (In this way, this web site can be thought of as a
>PUBLIC Rolodex.) What other community has a resident songwriter who waxes
>poetic (all right, maybe poetic is too strong a word!) about technology.
>And although I agree with Waxy when he says " the forum is not the place
>to get a basic training in flow," its important to temper this judgement
>with understanding and patience.  Nothing would turn off new comers to the
>field more quickly than if this became an elitist forum, only maintained
>for and used by the initiated. Right now we are looking for 2 qualified
>cytometrists to work in our labs, one with sort experience.  I can assure
>you, there aren't many out there.  We need to do all we can to keep people
>interested in and looking to flow cytometry as a great field to work in;
>not as a field filled with people who breath rarified air!
>
> Finally, what prompted this "outburst of sentimentality and hyperbole"
>was the thread about Paul's "harshness."  I for one did not interpret his
>words as particularly harsh but rather as a tad misguided and certainly
>impromptu.  I laude him and his staff for seeing that his statement might
>have been perceived as harsh and for quickly owning up to that
>perception.  Its a prime example of what I have tried to convey about the
>uniqueness and approachability of the flow cytometry community.
>
> Thanks Paul to you and your staff for all your hard work keeping this
>forum alive.  In an often uncivilized and truly harsh world, we have here
>a small corner of the world where people continue to show that we can all
>work together.
>
> And, so, to those who celebrate the tradition MERRY CHRISTMAS!  And to
>all of you HAPPY NEW YEAR!  May 2002 bring Peace on Earth.  More forums
>like ours would go a long way toward this long held goal (dream?) for all
>human kind.
>
> Fred Menendez
> Johns Hopkins University
> Bloomberg School of Public Health
> Flow Cytometry Core Laboratory
> Baltimore, Maryland
>
>
>


Janet Dow
Research Technician and Manager
Flow Cytometry Facility
North Carolina State College of Veterinary Medicine
Room C-314
Raleigh, NC 27606
(919)513-6364



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