Re: re Cellquest and OS 9.1

From: David Chambers (davidc@ccmi.salk.edu)
Date: Thu May 24 2001 - 18:27:23 EST


Hmmm, interesting.  I updated our LSR from 9.0.x to 9.1 (to try to fix
slowness and stalling problems :-), and we are having no problems whatsoever
running CellQuest 3.3...... Never crashes, not once.  Then again, I *did*
see the behavior you describe when I tried to run CellQuest 3.2 on MacOS 9.0
on our new G4 some half-year ago.

Well, I dunno, maybe it's the sea air!

All the best

	- David


On Tue, 22 May 2001 21:34:53 +0100, "D. Robert Sutherland" <rob.sutherland@utoronto.ca>
wrote:

>
> Hi Martin,
>
> in an earlier post, I  stated that the currently shipping version (3.3)
> of Cellquest was not compatible with OS9.1.  In a response posted to the
> list, Adrain Smith claimed that this was not the case, but I have had no
> response to correspondence directly to Adrian regarding specifically how
> he managed to do this. Meanwhile, everyone else (and I have fielded
> numerous 'phone calls and e-mails beyond the Purdue web-site) has had
> the same problems.
>
> Although v3.3 and Cellquest Pro launch OK on Macs running 9.1, the
> software usually quits with the exact error messages you mentioned.
> Some of us have had limited success performing analysis (only) on such
> computers as long as you remain within the open Cellquest window.
> Usually however, as soon as you mouse-click on any other area of the
> desktop, (including when you get the 'flashing finder' icon) the program
> quits with the afforementioned messages. So if you ignore the latter,
> and keep your mouse clicks within the Cellquest window, you can usually
> continue to work, at least for a while.
>
> While the above observations initially suggested that there might not be
> much for BD to 'fix' to effect compatibility with 9.1, they have decided
> that a completely new version of Cellquest must be written.  When this
> new version will be ready even for 'beta' testing, is not known.  How
> much effort is going into this versus  writing a fully 'carbonised'
> version for OSX is also not known (by me at least - anyone else out
> there with contacts deep inside BD HQ?)). However, in my dealings with
> both local technical people as well as those in San Jose, I have
> strongly suggested that a version compatible with OS9.1 should be the
> highest priority.
>
> Although OSX is 'the future',  Apple have not yet released a version of
> it that can run on 'legacy' Macs (7300/7500/7600 PCI Macs and G3
> upgrades thereof) and I would guess that perhaps a majority of BD
> instruments are running on pre-G3 Macs.  Furthermore, even if some of
> these older CPUs are retired and replaced by new Macs, the latter will
> all come loaded with OS9.1 (and OSX) and be incompatible with Cellquest
> v 3.3.  Thus, if BD release a carbonised version of Cellquest for OSX
> tomorrow, this will help very few  of us (if any at all).
>
> In summary, while not wishing to embarass anyone here or betray any
> 'confidences', it is becoming more important with each passing day, as
> more unsuspecting individuals upgrade their CPUs and discover the
> inevitable, that BD address this problem.  Personally, I cannot wait for
> this to be resolved so that I can to 'go on the road' with the new G4
> Powerbook that I purchased several months ago specifically for this
> application.
>
> HTH
>
> Rob Sutherland
> University Health Network,
> Toronto



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