There is an even more advanced technique now than the SBIP approach. It uses no enzymes at all. No DNAse or TdT (SBIP). Instead, it only employs a short irradiation period with UV-B and then subjects the cells to a hypotonic buffer. It's called UVID (Ultraviolet-Induced Detection). I saw some people in Texas using it - it works great !! Here is the paper: Hammers HJ, Kirchner H, Schlenke P. Ultraviolet-induced detection of halogenated pyrimidines: simultaneous analysis of DNA replication and cellular markers. Cytometry 2000 Aug 1;40(4):327-35 Best regards, Michael >From: "Harvey, Jeff" <jharvey@guavatechnologies.com> >To: Cytometry Mailing List <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu> >Subject: RE: Help about BrdU >Date: Wed, 18 Apr 2001 12:39:12 -0700 > >One additional note: > >You may also want to consider the BrdU kit from Phoenix Flow >("Absolute-S"). >This one also gives very good results and has the unique attribute of not >requiring DNase, HCL or heat treatment to make the incorporated BrdU >accessible for labeling. Instead, a technique developed in Dr. >Darzynkiewicz's lab, strand breaks induced by photolysis (SBIP), is used to >accomplish this. There is a description of the technique in Howard >Shapiro's Third Edition of Practical Flow Cytometry (p325). > >Regards, > >Jeff Harvey >Guava Technologies, Inc. > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: Carmen Raventos-Suarez [mailto:carmen.raventossuarez@bms.com] >Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 1:09 PM >To: cyto-inbox >Subject: Re: Help about BrdU > > >Dear Martha: >Just a note to support the use of the BrdU Pharmingen kit that utilize >DNAse instead of the HCl as a good method for BrdU incorporation. It has >also the advantage that using 7-AAD can allow a third parameter (surface or >internal marker) to be evaluated. >In our hands it gives excellent results, 30 min pulse for cells around the >24h cell cycle is good, longer pulse times for slow growing cells. Our >resolution for DNA phases is also good even when a third color is used. >Carmen > >Martha Mesa - Microbiology wrote: > > > Dear sir, > > > > In my laboratory, I am studying the effect of some compounds on tumoral > > cell cycle > > by PI staining. In order to know if the antitumoral effect observed is > > due to a > > decrease in DNA synthesis I am trying to set the BrdU incorporation > > assay, by I > > have several questions; some of them are: > > > > 1. For cells with doubling time of 22 (k562) and 72 hours (KG1a), how > > long must > > be the pulse? I have used BrdU 10 uM for 8 hours; I have only obtained > > low > > intensity in fluorescence some times. > > > > 2.Some protocols recommend more HCl. I have used 2M, 3M and 4M. With 4M > > the BrdU signal improves but phase resolution with PI disappear. I > > would like to > > know the effect in each phase; how can I obtained that? > > > > Thanks in advance, > > > > Marta Mesa _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com
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