Re[2]: CD5+ SLVL

From: Daniel Arber (darber@coh.org)
Date: Mon Aug 07 2000 - 19:45:43 EST


I'll jump back into this.

     I would make a diagnosis of CD5+ SLVL or CD5+ follicular lymphoma if I
     had other studies (particularly morphology) to support the diagnosis,
     but I would not make the diagnosis based solely on flow or on flow and
     FNA cytology only.

     I agree with Randy that many cases of HCL-variant are probably splenic
     marginal zone lymphomas, but some are not.  I have seen rare cases
     with features of HCL-v with splenectomy specimens that do not have the
     morphologic feature of splenic marginal zone lymphoma.  They had the
     expected red pulp pattern of infiltration without white pulp
     involvement.

     Dan Arber

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     Subject:  Re: CD5+ SLVL
     Author:   Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson <stetler@box-s.nih.gov>
     Date:          08/04/2000 3:10 PM




       So Randy, you would never diagnose a CD5+ case as SLVL? Even if
       it is cyclin D1 negative and no lymph node involvement or bone
       marrow involvement- only spleen and blood? As for forcing it
       into HCL- what if the cells are also negative for CD25, CD103
       and only dim CD11c?
            To expand further- What about CD5+ follicular lymphoma?

            This is getting to be a great discussion.

            Maryalice

          Hi Gang...I never use this forum, but can't resist this one.
          I also agree with Dan Arber. The response he recieved about
          the 1994 Blood paper is misleading. At that time, the
          so-called SLVL collection in London had about 30% cases with
          t(11;14). We all know what these are!! Peter Isaacson told
          all of us at a meeting many years ago, related to his Blood
          paper on the histopathology of SLVL, that virtually all of
          these cases were MCLs. Thus, CD5 positivity in SLVL is
          likely impossible to interpret from the published
          literature. However, he also claimed to see CD5 infrequently
          and discussed in that paper the distinctions between PB flow
          and frozen-section Ipox. He also made note of variable
          phenotypes as cells move from one compartment to another!

          My best guess is that SLVL/HCL-variant etc is likely to be
          one of several choices. Most are likely MZLs of different
          types. We now know about CD5+ MALT lymphomas with a tendency
          to involve BM and likely blood as well (AJCP paper with
          Nancy Harris). Remember that Bill Pugh presented a small
          number of cases at US&CAP many years ago (before the Harris
          paper). If one looks at the cytogenetic data from the
          literature, it gets even more interesting. I came across
          several papers about HCL, HCL-variant etc, some of which had
          isolated del 7q31-32. This cytogenetic finding is almost
          certainly tightly connected to primary splenic marginal
          zone. I would guess that classical cytogenetics and/or other
          PCR-based approaches (how about taking such cases and
          CD5-negative ones and doing RT-PCR for the AP12-MLT
          rearrangement), together with gene expression data will
          likely help to clarify much of the confusion in the
          literature. Otherwise, this will continue to be a problem
          area because of the vagaries of PB morphology/interpretation
          and the reliance of so-called "signature" phenotypes.
          Moreover, PB morphology cannot be equated in anyway with
          histology in most of these cases. Are people surprized to
          know that MCL (Bcl-1 proven) are CD5-negative in 3% of
          cases!!

                  Randy Gascoyne

                               Randy D. Gascoyne

                            Department of Pathology

                         British Columbia Cancer Agency

                               600 W 10th Avenue

                                 Vancouver, BC

                                 Canada V5Z 4E6

                      Phone: (604) 877-6098, local # 2097

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       Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson
       Director Flow Cytometry Unit
       Laboratory of Pathology, NCI, NIH



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