Hello Maryalice, we have these cases as well. Either atypical CLL, SLVL with bipolar morphology or MCL/MZL with atypical morphology or we donīt know. Morphology (jpg-file) would be nice. Our preliminary data on Cyclin D1 and esp. surface CD79a (serotec clone) including discussions with Estella Matutes and Ricardo Mordilla at Catovskis lab at the Royal Marsden Hospital in London seem to show that these markers donīt give definite answers for the diagnosis of MZL. No answers from van Dongen who suggested cyclin D1. EQA from INSTAND in Germany just shipped such a case and we have no answer yet (Stefan Serke, Berlin). No way around a lymph node biopsy and histology. And Harald Stein (Berlin) from the REAL club says only members of the group can give the real diagnosis. Soul-destroying remarks from Germany. Esp. nice if there is no enlarged lymph node. Our NHL antibody panel (remeber our exchange of panels) is still too small yet (including the REAL/WHO panel). With the existing panel we can confirm or exclude (HCL in your case) and still have a sediment of cases like the one you presented. Of course there is still the discrepancy in several markers between immunohistology and flow. >From the clinical point of view we can exclude HCL and treatment for other low malignant NH lymphoma (according to the KIEL classification ;-) ) is the same for MCL, SLVL or CLL with spleen involvement. Until now. Our new MedNet on leukemia http://www.kompetenznetz-leukaemie.de/ puts a lot of efforts into a consensus (whatever that is) panel for acute leukemia (not yet published) but NHL is not well in the focus. Suggestions for a better panel are still wellcome. Regards Thomas Dr.med. C. Thomas Nebe Universitaetsklinikum Mannheim Zentrallabor Theodor-Kutzer-Ufer 1-3 D-68167 Mannheim Tel. +49 621 383-3485 FAX +49 621 383-73 3485 +49 621 383-3819 e-mail: thomas.nebe@ikc.ma.uni-heidelberg.de http://www.ma.uni-heidelberg.de/inst/ikc/ (Internet) http://pandora/inst/ikc/ (Intranet) -----Original Message----- From: Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson [SMTP:stetler@box-s.nih.gov] Sent: Thursday, July 27, 2000 9:24 PM To: Cytometry Mailing List Subject: interesting case We have a case of an 80 year old male, with bone marrow biopsy showing lymphoproliferative process and enlarged spleen. The bone marrow tumor cells are reported cyclin D1 negative. The case was submitted with a diagnosis of hairy cell. WBC is 2.2 with anemia and thrombocytopenia. The peripheral blood is minimally involved (7% of lymphs). The tumor cells are CD19+, CD20 moderate (not dim), CD22 moderate, Immunoglobulin moderate- kappa/IgA IgM +, CD5 positive but spectrum from dim to moderate, FMC7 + and negative for CD23, CD10, CD103, CD25, CD38, IgD, IgG, and IgE. This doesn't look like CLL or mantle cell. We will be following up on the marrow biopsy and further clinical history and will let you know anything that pops up. Has anyone had a case like this? What is your favorite diagnosis for this? Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson and Doug Kingma Maryalice Stetler-Stevenson Director Flow Cytometry Unit Laboratory of Pathology, NCI, NIH
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