RE: CD BURNER (fwd) (fwd) (fwd)

From: Candace Enockson (enockson@musc.edu)
Date: Thu Jul 06 2000 - 08:54:03 EST


Sarah, I use a CD burner and it works great.  Below are the responses I got
from this list when I posed the same question. I hope it helps.

Candace

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From: Candace Enockson <enockson@musc.edu>
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Here are the CD burner responses.

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 1:18 PM -0500
From: "Martinez, Joseph" <zla0@cdc.gov>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: CD BURNER

Hi Candace,

The only problem I found was that I could not add extra SCSI controller card
to our G3s as it interfered with BDs card and ended up putting it into our
7600 PowerMac.  Have had no problem with skipping there.

Regards,

Joseph Martinez
CDC
Atlanta,GA
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> From: Candace Enockson [SMTP:enockson@musc.edu]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:44 AM
> To:	Cytometry Mailing List
> Subject:	CD BURNER
>
>
>
> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 1:02 PM -0600
From: Tina Rogers <Tina.Rogers@ccc.uab.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: CD BURNER

Candace, I have a Calibur and  power macs (7600/120). I bought a LaCie that
is 8x4x20, i think. I know it isn't the slowest one that they make.  I have
had no problems, except that every time I write a disc, I get a message that
it can't run in 8x mode, but click ok and it will run in 4x. So it takes
about 15 minutes to burn 650MB of data, and probably 30 minutes to verify
it. The speed issue may be a formatting error on my part. I just haven't
been motivated to have someone check it out. I did learn to copy the data
onto the hard drive that was connected to the burner...I tried burning
"indirectly" through the workstation computer and that took forever.
TIna S. Rogers, Ph.D.
Manager, MAMDC FACS Core Facility
Division of Rheumatology
University of Alabama at Birmingham
1900 University Blvd.
THT 405
Birmingham, AL 35294-0006
205-934-1362

> ----------
> From:		Candace Enockson
> Sent:		Tuesday, January 25, 2000 10:44 AM
> To:	Cytometry Mailing List
> Subject:	CD BURNER
>
>
>
> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina
>

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 2:31 PM -0500
From: Akos_Szilvasi@biogen.com
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER



Hi, Candace,

we used the same Mac with a Mitsubishi CD-R . We ran it at 1x when writing
CDs. It wasn't very reliable. After upgrading the computer to a G3 all
problems were gone. It works just fine at 2x (this is the highest speed).

You always can write slower but if you upgrade your Mac the slow CD burner
won't be able to take advantage of the new Mac. Buy the faster ones with a
good name + the newest software (from Adaptec).

Best regards,

Akos Szilvasi
Biogen












Candace Enockson <enockson@musc.edu> on 01/25/2000 10:44:01 AM

To: cyto-inbox
cc:    (bcc: Akos Szilvasi/Cambridge/Biogen)
Subject:  CD BURNER






Dear Flowers,
I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
which you have had success (or not!).

Thanx for your responses,
Candace Enockson
Medical University of South Carolina





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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 2:41 PM -0500
From: Glenn Paradis <gap@MIT.EDU>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


Candace,

My 4x burner lets me burn at 2x also so there will probably be no problem.
You can choose the burn speed in the Adaptec Toast program if your burner
allows it (i.e is compatable with 1x/2x/4x ect.)  I have no problem burning
at 4x with a
Quadra 650 so I will be surprised if you have any problems.


Glenn
MIT
>Dear Flowers,
>I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
>some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
>Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
>since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
>8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
>slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
>Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
>which you have had success (or not!).
>
>Thanx for your responses,
>Candace Enockson
>Medical University of South Carolina




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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 3:00 PM -0500
From: "Mark A. KuKuruga" <kukuru@umich.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


Candace,
I don't have a CD recorder for my MAC system yet (I'm holding out for a
recommendation from BD . . .), but I have been using a Smart $ Friendly
CD-Recorder (2, actually) for archiving my Elite files.  I've only had one
writing error to date, and I'm fairly confident it's a sped related issue.
We use Adaptec's Easy CD Creator software.  The instruction manual in this
software suggest a speed test for the first few burning sessions . . .
unfortunately, I'm one of those who never reads manuals!  However, since
I've allowed the software to monitor and adjust its writing speed to
accommodate transfer rates, I've had no problems.
Therefore, by way of advice . . . don't worry about the Recorder's speed,
but be sure that the software you use can effectively monitor the data
transfer rate from your disk.
MAK.

Candace Enockson wrote:

> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 3:55 PM -0600
From: "Houston, Jim " <Jim.Houston@stjude.org>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: RE: CD BURNER

There should be not problem.
The burner moves data a lot much slower rate even at 8x than is done over
the
scsi line.

jim

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From: Candace Enockson [mailto:enockson@musc.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 9:44 AM
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: CD BURNER




Dear Flowers,
I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
which you have had success (or not!).

Thanx for your responses,
Candace Enockson
Medical University of South Carolina

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 5:16 PM -0500
From: David Gebhard <gebhard@aecom.yu.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


Hi,

	   I started with a gray G3 and installed an external "Smart and Friendly"
	   CD burner.  It came with the Adaptec Toast software, and worked well. I
	   have since upgraded to a Blue and White G3 and found that the
USB-to-SCSI interface was slow. I got a reccomendation from the
Manufacturer and installed a UltraFAST SCSI Card from Adaptec.	It works
well.  Definately be sure that your scsi interface is fast enough.    Good
luck. It will be worth it!				Dave G..


At 11:44 AM 01/25/2000 -0400, you wrote:
>
>
>Dear Flowers,
>I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
>some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
>Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
>since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
>8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
>slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
>Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
>which you have had success (or not!).
>
>Thanx for your responses,
>Candace Enockson
>Medical University of South Carolina
>
>
Dave Gebhard--Director FACS Facility
Albert Einstein College of Medicine
Chanin Building 309
1300 Morris Park Avenue
Bronx, New York 10461
718-430-2724/ 3573  FAX 718-430-8550


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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 4:18 PM -0700
From: genius <genius@nmt.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

My experience tells me that it shouldn't be a problem at all especially if
the HD is SCSI as well.

Candace Enockson wrote:

> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina


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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 3:53 PM -0800
From: Maciej Simm <simmmmer@yahoo.com>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

I use a 4/2 external usb lacie drive which is plenty fast considering I
need to backup about once every two weeks - there's not that much to burn
in a flow lab :)

You may get your superfast 8/4 drive and there are settings to control
writing speed. So your drive will be 4x maybe. And when you get a faster
computer it'll be back at 8! worthwhile investment.

feel free to email me if you have other questions.

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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 6:58 PM -0500
From: Keith Bahjat <kbahjat@ufl.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

Candace,

Any CD-recorder can run at less than max speed. So if you buy an 8x
recorder, you can run it at 2x. But you may have known that. When you get
the CD-Recorder, you should also get a copy of Adaptec Toast. This will let
you do a speed test to verify your max recording speed before transferring.
You may have known that as well.

What you may not know is problems with data corruption become more prevalent
at higher speeds. So you may not even want to run at 8x. In fact, I don't
know anyone who routinely runs at over 4x. I have certain CD's I burn in
which accuracy is vital to their function, and I burn those at 1x or 2x.

I recommend Yamaha drives, and you can find one running at 4x speeds for
around $200 now. Here is a great deal, external with all the cables:

http://dealmac.com/phews/artclick.php3?id=11188&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.compgee
ks.com%2Fcgi-bin%2Fdetails.asp%3Fcat%3DMultiMedia%26sku%3D205-4417


As for your computer speed, It will have no problem running at whatever
speed you need. That has a 200 MHz 604e in it. That's a fast processor!
Plus, since your Mac has SCSI (unlike most of the PC's that use IDE), your
transfer rate is much higher and more consistent. So get whatever drive you
want. It will run great.

Good luck, and e-mail if you need help with any other Mac questions.

kb

--
-----------------------------------------------


Keith Bahjat
Graduate Assistant
University of Florida
College of Medicine
Gainesville, Florida
kbahjat@ufl.edu


> From: Candace Enockson <enockson@musc.edu>
> Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2000 11:44:01 -0400
> To: Cytometry Mailing List <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
> Subject: CD BURNER
>
>
>
> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina


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Date: Wed, Jan 26, 2000 7:13 PM -0500
From: Chris Groves <groves@mpi.com>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

Hi Candace,
    I have a LaCie 8x burner and I love it, albeit its attached to a G3.
    I'd be more concerned with my media and whether it can handle those high
speeds (8x).  I have yet to pass 4x. I chose a burner over a rewriter
because of the cost of the media as well as the drive,	also because once
I've made an archive I don't want anyone to alter it. You can always add
data to the cd at a later date. I got mine from pcconnection.com and have
found that they have great tech support. Make sure to ask the sales rep. if
the burner is compatable with SCSI as well as newer and higher bandwidth
versions, which most are. You'll need to play around with different makes
of disks as well as different speeds. You'll produce a number of coasters
but once you get the speed and manufacturer fine tuned then you'll have
reliable burning sessions. Best of luck.
Chris

Chris Groves
Millennium Pharmaceuticals Inc.
75 Sidney Street
Cambridge MA 02139
617-679-7495
groves@mpi.com

Candace Enockson wrote:

> Dear Flowers,
> I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
> some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
> Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
> since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
> 8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
> slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
> Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
> which you have had success (or not!).
>
> Thanx for your responses,
> Candace Enockson
> Medical University of South Carolina


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Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2000 3:39 PM +1100
From: Adrian Smith <A.Smith@centenary.usyd.edu.au>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

>Dear Flowers,
>I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
>some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
>Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
>since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
>8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
>slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
>Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
>which you have had success (or not!).
>
>Thanx for your responses,
>Candace Enockson
>Medical University of South Carolina

I have had no problems burning at 4x times with a Yamaha 4416 on a
original G3 minitower that has the same SCSI port speed as the
7300/200 (5MB/sec). I'm not sure about the relative hard disk speeds.
My impression is that the size of the buffer in the CD recorder can
be very important here.

If you had persistent problems burning at 8x then you can always tell
the recorder to burn at 4x or even 2x. Alternatively you could buy a
faster SCSI card...

Be aware that when you are burning CDs the computer can do nothing else.

Adrian

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Date: Thu, Jan 27, 2000 9:35 AM +0100
From: Ulrich Beutner <beutner@chirurgie.uni-wuerzburg.de>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

>Dear Flowers,
>I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
>some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
>Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
>since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
>8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
>slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
>Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
>which you have had success (or not!).
>
>Thanx for your responses,
>Candace Enockson
>Medical University of South Carolina


Hi Candace,
I guess you already made up your mind getting a CD burner. Nevertheless I
just want to tell you that about 2 years ago there had been a discussion on
this list for the ideal storage medium, which might be interesting for you.
Then the MO drives were considered the medium of choice. We use them here
and are very happy with them. They are somewhat more expensive than CDs,
but much faster, more reliable (due to the design they are immune against
magnetic fields a problem of all other magnetic storage media and since the
disk is in a housing (compared to a CD) they are also quite resistant
against scratches) and can be rewritten nearly indefinitely (I wouldn't
push rewriting a CD too much).

Since we do not have a CD burner just a few theoretical remarks: A standard
SCSI bus can handle 5 Mb/s which is much, much faster than an 8x (writing)
CD burner. Also your harddrive and your processor should outperform the CD
burner by far. But then again these are theoretical consideration, in the
computer industry everything is possible. (Just for comparison our MO
drives work flawlessly on a Pentium 100 MHz PC with standard SCSI, which is
much slower than your 7300/200)

I don't have one, but CD drives from Plextor are considered by many the
best available (I think also the most expensive).

Sorry I could only report hearsay concerning your questions, but perhaps
they might be of some help for you

yours
Ulrich Beutner

================================================
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Chirurgische Universitätsklinik
Abt.: Exp. Transplantationsimmunologie (ETI)
Josef-Schneider-Str. 2
97080 Wuerzburg
Germany

beutner@chirurgie.uni-wuerzburg.de

Tel.	++49 931 201-2252
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Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2000 6:47 AM -0600
From: Michael Herron <herro001@maroon.tc.umn.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


I am in the market for the same thing,	but I was wondering if I could
get a firewire CDR.  Has anyone had experience with backing up data with
firewire to CDR?

Mike
--
_________________________________________________
	/  Michael J. Herron			      /
       /     U of MN,Medicine/Infectious Diseases    /
      /        herro001@maroon.tc.umn.edu	    /
     /		 http://128.101.243.213		   /
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Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2000 2:07 PM -0500
From: Eric Van Buren <aa9080@wayne.edu>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER

Candace,

I've been using a Yamaha CDR400t CD burner (4x-max write speed; repackaged
and sold by LaCie) for several years now. Originally it was connected to a
Quadra 800 and failed to write a total of 2 times, both of which could have
been avoided. But at almost $1.00 per CD-r (when you buy in bulk), it was
no big loss.

Now the CDR400t is connected to a G3/400 and I haven't had any failed
writes, all at 4x speed. This success is probably due more to experience
running the software (Toast) than to the hardware difference.

The type of CD-r disks that we have the best luck with are Verbatim
DataLifePlus CD-R (74min/650MB); the box says "Reorder #91224". These are
"blue" disks (the side that is written to is blue). We had trouble with
"gold" and "green" disks by other manufacturers. The problem was not that
the CD-r's could be written, but that the CD-r's could not be mounted by
other CD-ROM drives on other computers. It has been several years since we
tested CD-r disks, so there may be better options available now. We bought
single disks of all the types available at the time and made a test disk of
each kind and tested them on as many different computers (Mac and PC) as
possible. The Verbatims were the only ones that worked on every computer we
had access to, so we've been using them ever since.

I would suggest that you NOT use your acquisition Mac to burn CDs, for 2
reasons: (1) burning a CD ties up the Mac (and cytometer in the case of an
acquisition Mac), and (2) "bad things" can happen if you put too much
software on an acquisition Mac. BD recommends that all you have on your
acquisition Mac is the system software and BD software in order to limit
software conflicts.

Good luck,
Eric

>Dear Flowers,
>I am in the process of getting a CD Burner for data storage and am hoping
>some of you have had experience with this.  I have a FACSCalibur with a
>Power Mac 7300/200. I am concerned about speed compatibility with the SCSI
>since this is an "older" computer. There are some fast burners available,
>8x4x24, but I have been cautioned that my SCSI or hard drive may be too
>slow in sending info to such a fast burner and it may result in skips.
>Anyone have any thoughts? Also, I would like to hear about brands with
>which you have had success (or not!).
>
>Thanx for your responses,
>Candace Enockson
>Medical University of South Carolina

/\/\/\_ Eric Van Buren, aa9080@wayne.edu
\ \ \	Karmanos Cancer Institute and Immunology & Microbiology
    \_^_/  Wayne State University, Detroit, Michigan, USA



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Date: Fri, Jan 28, 2000 11:45 AM -0800
From: Adam Treister <treestar@treestar.com>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


I'm waiting for the same thing.  I bought a USB CDR for the Mac from Que,
and had to return it because it only worked at the slowest speed.  When I
queried the sales rep at MacWorld, he said the FireWire is a much better
product.
The throughput better, and the USB standard is apparently interpreted quite

differently by different vendors.  His advice to me was hold out a couple
months
and get Firewire.
Of course DVD writers are coming up soon, too, so whatever you get
will be outmoded quickly.

Adam

Michael Herron wrote:

> I am in the market for the same thing,  but I was wondering if I could
> get a firewire CDR.  Has anyone had experience with backing up data with
> firewire to CDR?
>
> Mike
> --
> _________________________________________________
>      /  Michael J. Herron			     /
>     /     U of MN,Medicine/Infectious Diseases    /
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Date: Sat, Jan 29, 2000 1:58 AM -0500
From: Bunny Cotleur <bcotleur@ohio.net>
To: cyto-inbox
Subject: Re: CD BURNER


Adam Treister wrote:
>
> I'm waiting for the same thing.  I bought a USB CDR for the Mac from Que,
> and had to return it because it only worked at the slowest speed.  When I
> queried the sales rep at MacWorld, he said the FireWire is a much better
> product.
> The throughput better, and the USB standard is apparently interpreted
quite > differently by different vendors.  His advice to me was hold out a
couple > months  and get Firewire.

Adam  (& fellow flowers)...
the QPS QUE! firewire drive is slated to be shipped next week. They have
2 config's: 24x6x4 and 32x8x4, and the cheapest price I've seen is
Outpost.com ($299 and $399 respectively). Both have 2mb buffers (see
www.qps-inc.com for full specs).  USB was never really a good choice for
speedy data transfer- the hot swapping, extensive daisy chaining, and no
need for termination are the only positive features (IMHO).  Firewire
and SCSI II are your best bets for burning, unless you have unlimited
patience (as I do NOT)	 ;-)

> Of course DVD writers are coming up soon, too, so whatever you get
> will be outmoded quickly.

The problem with DVD is that "industry standard" is still being
determined- so if you went that way, you may not have universal access
to info on the disks. Plus, at a minimum you need the special drives for
reading.  At least with the CD-R/RW's, you can pop them into almost all
CD-ROMs.
Just my 2 cents-

> Adam

Bunny






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