Re: Alexa Fluor 350

From: Bill Telford (telfordw@box-t.nih.gov)
Date: Wed Jul 05 2000 - 14:50:05 EST





Hi Sheree...

We have had considerable experience with AMCA (7-aminomethylcoumarin) over the years, both in home-brewed conjugations to antibodies and in commercial preparations (avidin and anti-mouse IgG conjugations from Molecular Probes, Jackson Immunoresearch, KPL, etc.).  As I understand it (if I'm wrong, someone at Molecular Probes corrct me!), Alexa Fluor 350 dye is equivalent to AMCA-S, a sulfonated form of AMCA that has higher aqueous solubility than conventional AMCA, giving better conjugations - it also has a slightly shorter emission wavelength, lowering interference with fluorescein.  In any form, however, AMCA is plagued by an emission wavelength coinciding with a region of strong cellular autofluorescence, giving it a low signal-to-noise ratio.  Detection with AMCA by flow therefore tends to be very dim compared to other synthetic fluorochromes such as fluorescein.  We therefore have only used it for extremely dense antigens (CD45/B220 on mouse B cells and CD8 or CD90 on mouse T cells are typical examples) which would give a FITC-detected signal of three or more log decades over background - we would only expect one or two log decades above background for AMCA.  We used to use AMCA to do five-color analysis when we had an Enterprise laser with 488 nm and 351 nm fixed wavelengths (along with FITC/PE/PE-TXRed/PE-Cy5) - now that we have a 632 nm HeNe and a 407/415 nm krypton, we use either red-excited probes (APC, Cy5, APC-Cy7) or violet excited probes (Cascade Blue or Cascade Yellow) almost exclusively to get 5 or 6-color detection - they are all much brighter.

Now the good news!  If AMCA-type fluorochromes DO work with your detection system, your HeCad laser should excite it just as well as other UV sources.  We have used argon and krypton lasers ranging from 351 to 364 nm down to 20 mW power levels, and AMCA fluorescence over background remains the same as at higher levels (150 mW).  We also recently tried Alexa Fluor 350 dye (MP avidin conjugate to detect CD90 on mouse thymoma cells) on the new B-D LSR with its 8 mW HeCad source and it worked just as well as a krypton laser emitting at 100 mW UV.  The data is at http://www-dcs.nci.nih.gov/branches/medicine/flowcore/lsr.htm.  As you can see, though, the AMCA signal with any excitation source leaves something to be desired - if you want to try it, some sort of amplification might be in order (biotin-avidin or secondary antibody) and would let you avoid the conjugation process.

Hope this helps.

Bill


 (At 09:54 AM 7/5/00 +0930, Bailey, Sheree (FMC) wrote:
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>We have a FACS Vantage SE with an Omnichrome HeCd laser with an output power
>of 36mW.
>We would like to use Alexa Fluor 350 Dye and Protein Labeling Kit with an
>Abs/Em
>of 346/442nm.  Has anyone used this dye and/or this system and do you
>recommend it.
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>Sheree Bailey
>Flinders Medical Centre
>Dept of Immunology
>SA.  Aust.



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