I wanted to add to Jose's outstanding review of CD4+CD8+ ("DP") T cells in peripheral blood. The level of CD8 expression (as well as exactly the form, be it CD8 alpha/alpha or CD8 alpha/beta) distinguishes different kinds of "DP" cells. As we showed in Blood in 1997 [Watanabe et al], there are subsets of CD8dull CD4+ T cells (that express CD8a/a homodimers) which can become prevalent in certain diseases (such as late-stage AIDS, after chemotherapy), but can be found in variable proportions in healthy adults. These cells are unlikely to be CD4 cells that have upregulated CD8alpha, but rather constitute a distinct lineage (because we can identify differentiation & effector stages within the CD4+CD8dull, and have determined the VBeta repertoire of the "naive" CD4+CD8-dull to be very different from that of either CD4+ or CD8+ single-positive T cells--and yes, I know that doesn't prove they're a distinct lineage, but we can have that argument over a nice bottle of wine at ISAC). In any case, there are also CD4+CD8+ which express CD8alpha/beta heterodimers are are "bright" CD8. (These distinctions only work well if you are using very bright CD8 reagents that have low backgrounds). These "true" double positives are very rare, and usually are a consequence of having dead cells: dead cells are notoriously sticky. We showed that, especially after stimulation, 90% of "CD4+CD8+" cells are actually dead cells and could have nearly any original phenotype. However, there are very rare "true" DP cells that are not dead. Whether these are a distinct lineage of mature T cell or whether they cells that have perhaps "spilled out" of the thymus during development is not known to me. Note that reports of CD4+CD8+ T cells making IL4 must be taken with a grain of salt, because these are certainly dead cells. When excluding dead cells after stimulation (by, e.g., EMA staining), the few remaining true DP cells do not make IL4. Certain antibodies to IL4 have a very high propensity to bind dead cells--although I believe the particular clone we used that had this property has been discontinued. The finding of CD4+CD8+ in primates is likely not an artefact of dead cells--there's simply too many to be explained by death. However, we still need to determine if these cells are CD8-dull (i.e., CD8a/a) or CD8-bright (and express CD8a/b heterodimers). This is important because the CD8-dull cells (which can be either CD4+ or CD4-, incidentally) are a very different "lineage" than the DP. mr
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