Re: TUNEL KITS

From: tylee (tylee@itis.com)
Date: Fri Mar 10 2000 - 20:26:23 EST


Simon,

There are NUMEROUS suppliers of "TUNEL" kits. I recommend you choose one
depending on your application. Many/most of them actually still use the
original TUNEL format that utilizes a biotin or hapten-modified nucleotide
and streptavidin-HRP, etc.

Since you are posting to this site, I suppose you are more interested in
flow applications, I recommend choosing a format that utilizes a direct
nucleotide-fluorochrome conjugate such as fluoresceine 12-dUTP. This can be
efficiently incorporated onto the 3' ends of DNA fragments by TdT in the
appropriate ionic environment. Many of the complete kits contain TdT
incubation buffers to run the reaction in. One thing to watch out for is
whether or not another natural (unlabeled) nucleotide in included in
fluorochrome conjugate.  A mixture allows for a longer polymer of
nucleotides to be incorporated by TdT because steric hindrance can occur if
you have 2 (? or several) modified nucleotides incorporated next to each
other in a row. Not all companies disclose that information.
Some companies such as the one that use to be called Oncor (I think Intergin
bought/rescued them) also have kits based on longer wavelength dyes; but I
think some of them may require something other than the usual laser used for
fluorescein, so check em out before you buy.
I think Boehringer (Roach Molecular) has both original and direct formats.
Promega also has a direct fluoresceine-12-dUTP version of the kit will all
the buffers, solubilization reagents (proteinase K), etc.
Phoenix Flow Systems has a version of TUNEL (they refer to as TUBEL; but a
rose by any other name...) which incorporates BrdU that is subsequently
detected by fluorescein labeled antiBrdU monoclonal antibody. They claim
that Br-dUTP is more efficiently incorporated because a brighter signal is
generated; but, it is unclear if the brighter signal is from the increased
incorporation or the amplification achieved with having multiple
fluorochromes on the antibody.  I am not sure that the increase in
fluorescent intensity is really worth the effort of the extra steps involved
with using a secondary antibody as long as you can detect the signal in
apoptotic cells. Perhaps someone else could comment on this.
I would recommend using one of the direct Fluoresceine-dUTP kits. You can
price shop; but I recommend buying direct rather than through a distributor.
I never know how long thay have had them sitting on their shelf. About a
year ago, I think there was a comparison of several companies' apoptosis
products, perhaps in The Scientist, Biomedical Products, or another one of
those 11" x 14" rags.

After all of this, have you considered sub G0 or one of the other apoptosis
markers recently discussed on this list?

Ty

-----Original Message-----
From: Simon Monard <smonard@trudeauinstitute.org>
To: cyto-inbox
Date: Friday, March 10, 2000 6:06 PM
Subject: TUNEL KITS


>
>Hi All
>
>What other TUNEL kits are available other than the Boehringer Mannheim kit?
Which ones
>work the best?
>
>Thanks
>
>Simon
>
>Simon Monard
>FACS Lab Manager
>Trudeau Institute
>Saranac Lake
>NY12983
>
>Ph 518 891 3080 X352
>
>



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