RE: Calcium Flux help

From: Peter Lopez (PeterL@Cytomation.com)
Date: Mon Feb 28 2000 - 13:37:27 EST


Hello Brian,
	Too bad about your first run. A couple of thoughts:

Why fluo and Fura?- I thought you had a UV laser (for Indo). If you
want to
use Indo, I can send you an applications note on the set up for the MoFlo.
Oh- are you doing this on a scan?

Did the cells load?

Were you looking at only internal mobilization of calcium? The influx
from external (media) to internal is a much larger flux, and easier
to see.
With calcium-free media, you're only able to see the internal flux- a lot
smaller and shorter
signal as I recall.

You might want to retry the experiment using calcium containing
media, and try to get a flux using an ionophore like a-23187 or ionomycin.
That's
the biggest signal you can get, and often helps with troubleshooting.

Also, if fluo/Fura behaves anything like Indo, shorter loading periods
sometimes
work better than longer, since the dye starts to compartmentalize and then
becomes less sensitive.
To minimize this ,we load for 30 minutes at most, and then the cells go
on ice to slow things down. When you're ready to run the cells, bring them
back up to 37. You
can look at the cells under a fluorescence scope to see loading- it should
be diffuse, not
punctate or granular. If you see structure in the staining pattern
under the
scope, it's probably
too long of a loading.

Regards,
Peter Lopez

> ----------
> From:		Newsom, Brian S.[SMTP:BSNEWSOM@txccc.org]
> Sent:		Friday, February 25, 2000 11:38 AM
> To:	Cytometry Mailing List
> Subject:	Calcium Flux help
>
> We tried our first stab at calcium mobilation today and got dismal
> results. Following is the protocol we used:
>
> Preparation:
> 1.	Make up fluo-3 and Fura Red at 10mg/ml in DMSO
>
> Procedure:
> 1.	Wash cells in Ca++ Free media (HBSS)at RT.
> 2.	Incubate cells in media containing 16uM fluo-3 + 40uM Fura Red for
> 45 minutes at 37C.
> 3.	Wash cells once in Ca++ Free media (HBSS)at RT.
> 4. Resuspend in HBSS (Ca++ Free) at 2.0 X 10^6/mL
> 5.	Run baseline analysis on Flow Cytometer collecting 30s-1min
of data.
> Collect fluo-3 in FL1 and Fura Red in FL3. Collect both vs. Time.
> 6.	Take sample off machine and add stimulus (leave machine in
> run-continue collecting listmode).
> 7.	Put sample back on and collect through sample peak (about 5 min).
>
> FL1 and FL3 were collected in linear. No flux was seen with either dye.
> Any suggestions on what we did wrong? Do we need HEPES in the buffer? Do
> we need different dye concentrations? Any suggestions welcomed and
> appreciated.
>
> Brian Newsom
> Director, Flow Cytometry
> Center for Cell and Gene Therapy
> Baylor college of Medicine
>
>



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