Re: CFSE

From: James F. George, Ph.D. (Jgeorge@uab.edu)
Date: Tue Nov 13 2001 - 13:02:15 EST


 Are you sure you have correctly compensated the data?  CFSE is quite bright
 and it is not uncommon for it to bleed substantially into the PE channel.
If
 you use CFSE at a concentration of 5micromolar, which is often recommended
 by some protocols, you will see extremely bright (eg. later half of the 4th
 decade on a 'Calibur) CFSE fluorescence which is extremely difficult if not
 impossible to compensate out completely.  For mouse cells, we use a
 concentration of 1micromolar, and some of my friends who stain human cells
 use even less.

 As a first step, I would recommend that you run some purified cells stained
 with CFSE alone and see if that mysterious "negative" peak appears in your
 PE channel.
 -jim
 James F. George, Ph.D.
 Division of Cardiothoracic Surgery
 Department of Surgery
 University of Alabama at Birmingham
 Birmingham, AL 35294-0007
 Phone 205-934-4261
 FAX 205-934-5261
 jgeorge@uab.edu

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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jake Kohlmeier" <jkohl@ku.edu>
> To: "Cytometry Mailing List" <cytometry@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu>
> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2001 7:39 PM
> Subject: CFSE
>
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> >
> > Dear flowers,
> > Being a rookie in this field, I was wondering if anyone out there has
> > answers to some of the problems I have encountered with CFSE staining.
> When
> > I label purified human CD4+ T cells with CFSE and also stain with a
second
> > marker (CD3 for example) I see a population of cells that have not
divided
> > that appear negative for CD3, as well as some that are positive.  In
cells
> > that have undergone 1 or more divisions, there is no longer a CD3
negative
> > population.  As I expect, when I run CD3 alone as a control all the
cells
> > are positive.
> >
> > If I increase the voltage in FL2 when looking at CFSE and CD3
> > simultaneously, I can "move" the CD3 negative cells so they are now
> positive
> > without affecting the intensity of the cells that were positive to begin
> > with at the lower voltage.  So my questions are:
> >
> > Why am I seeing a CD3 negative population and why do I see it only in
> > non-dividing cells?  Does this have anything to do with the fact that
the
> > stronger CFSE signal from non-dividing cells is somehow interfering?
> >
> > Also, is increasing the voltage of FL2 a "legal" thing to do to make
this
> > small population of cells stain positive for CD3?  I want to be sure
that
> by
> > doing this I'm not changing reality and the data are still of good
> quality.
> > Any suggestions are welcome.  Thanks.
> >
> > Jake Kohlmeier
> > Department of Molecular Biosciences
> > University of Kansas
> > 1200 Sunnyside Ave.
> > Lawrence, KS 66045
> > (785) 864-4029
>



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