Re: EMA/FITC/PE

From: Mark Shlomchik (mark.shlomchik@yale.edu)
Date: Sun Sep 23 2001 - 13:19:17 EST


>An investigator is looking at macrophages using FITC-conjugated (2 micron)
>bead uptake plus ED-1 positivity as indicators of viable macrophages in a
>sample that consists mostly of what morphologically appear to be macs.  Some
>of the ED-1 positive cells don't take up beads and he wants to be assured
>that these ED-1 positive/bead uptake-negative cells are viable and not
>binding the ED-1 (which is directly conjugated with phycoerythrin)
>non-specifically as dead cells might.  It has been suggested that he use
>ethidium monoazide bromide (EMA) as an indicator of viability (the light
>scatter properties of cells from some of the treated animals precludes using
>scatter as a viability indicator).
>
>The plan is to first stain the cell samples with EMA, fix and permeabilize,
>followed by staining with ED1.  My question is, can we distinguish the PE
>fluorescence from that of EMA?  The Molecular Probes web site indicated the
>fluorescence emission of EMA is around 625 but a reference they list
>indicates that DNA-bound EMA has a fluorescence emission peak more like 600.
>At 625 we might have a chance of distinguishing EMA from PE but I don't
>think so if the EMA Em peak is 600.  I haven't seen an emission spectrum for
>EMA so can't tell how much PE will extend into it, or it into PE.
>
>Can this be done on a standard flow cytometer (we have a FACSVantage)?  If
>so, I suppose we would gate on the EMA negative cells first and then look at
>the FITC/PE staining of those cells (?).
>
>I assume all three - FITC, PE, and EMA - can be excited at 488.
>
>Thanks for any advice.
>
>Ray Hester
>rhester@jaguar1.usouthal.edu

The answers to all your questions are yes, I believe.

You can do this with the 488 laser on the Vantage.  And you can
distinguish EMA from PE--we do this routinely.  Of course, there will
be substantial compensation, but with a reasonable PE signal you can
see it fine.


--
Mark Shlomchik, MD, PhD
Associate Professor of Laboratory Medicine
and Immunobiology
Yale University School of Medicine

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