I found that ro/ra give different staining patterns dependent on manufacturer, concentration, choice of fluorochrome and lysis method. I settled for FACS lyse, CD45ro-PE from DAKO. I report 8+45ro- 8+45ro+ 8++45ro- 8++45ro+ 8++45ro++ I have not done that together with chemokines. Regards Gerhard -----Original Message----- From: bunny [SMTP:bunny@cotleur.com] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 4:52 PM To: Cytometry Mailing List Subject: (human) CD8 analysis questions friends- I have a dilemma. I'm participating in a study analyzing chemokine receptors in MS patients in clinical trials. The combinations used are: CD4+/CD45RA+/CHEMOKINE and CD8+/CD45RA+/CHEMOKINE. Here is my question: for measuring the CD8/45RA portion, do I set the markers on background (isotype or unstained,whatever- that's not my current question) and accept ALL CD8+ (DIM AND BRIGHT), or specifically CD8 bright+/CD45RA+. For most of the chemokines, the results are the same (for either /CD8+ bright/45RA+ or CD8+ dim/45RA+). But for one marker the results are dramatically different. {I do understand that the CD8 dims's usually contain NK cells. I searched both cytometry archives and pubmed, and found many valuable discussions of the roles of these various subpopulations. For this study, adding more/or changing CD markers is out of the question.} So my main questions here are: 1)With the combinations described above, WHERE do people normally set the marker for CD8+ cells; and 2) do you then report the data as "%chemokine receptor expression in activated CD8+45RA+ cells" ? or CD8+bright/CD45RA+ -- Bunny Cotleur Cleveland Clinic Foundation Neurosciences NC30 9500 Euclid Avenue Cleveland, OH 44195 (216) 444-1164 cotleua@ccf.org
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