Re: Venous versus cardiac blood collection in mice

From: Candace Enockson (enockson@musc.edu)
Date: Tue Dec 05 2000 - 14:19:26 EST


Try coating your needle and syringe with the heparin to avoid clotting.
Candace Enockson

--On Mon, Dec 4, 2000 4:36 PM -0500 Bill Telford <telfordw@box-t.nih.gov>
wrote:

>
> Hello all...
>
> My former postdoctoral mentor has this question regarding blood collection
> from mice for flow cytometry.  Any ideas?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Bill Telford
>
> _______________________
> Richard A. Miller (U. Michigan) asks...
>
> Got a question for you about mouse blood and flow cytometry.
> We've been doing T cell subset on mouse tail blood for a while
> now. The protocol involves heating the mouse under a light bulb;
> then making a nick in the tail; then collecting 400 ul of blood into a
> tube with a 10 ul drop of heparin in it; then washing with 600 ul of
> PBS; then resuspending to a volume of 400 ul using BSS-BSA;
> then aliquoting and adding antibodies. The flow rate has been 100 -
> 200 events/second using our FacsCalibur; we typically count
> 10000 events over 50 - 100 seconds.
> We've now been doing the same thing but using cardiac blood
> instead, and we get a much slower flow rate. The mice are
> anesthetized (avertin); heart puncture using a 26 gauge needle
> provides 600 - 1000 ul of cardiac blood. The needle is removed and
> the blood is expressed into a tube containing 10 ul of heparin. We
> then add 1.5 volumes of PBS; centrifuge; discard the supernatant;
> add BSS to the original blood volume, and aliquot. But with this
> method we get flow of only about 50 events/second, and
> sometimes as low as 20 events/second.
> I suspect a clotting problem; perhaps the damage to the heart
> muscle, or perhaps by damage to the cells as they come into the
> needle and syringe. The techs that do these bleedings tell me that
> they do occasionally see evidence of slight clotting in the cardiac
> samples, and I'm therefore suspicious that cells are being
> sequestered or damaged during the blood collection process.
> Do any of you have an idea of what's really going on here, or how to
> solve it?
>
> Rich
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>



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