Hi everyone! I've received so many requests for the PDF file -- and many people's EMail systems won't accept it because of size limitations -- that I've decided to temporarily post it on the web. I will be removing it in a week, and there are no direct links to it from any web page, so you'll have to enter this URL directly into your browser (make sure you get the capitalization on the letters correct!): <http://www.drmr.com/BRJIM.pdf> I am gratified by the significant interest in multi-color work! I hope everyone who is interested does take Nicole's encouragement to try it! mr (PS, regarding the software compensation issue. Both Rafael and Ray are incorrect in asserting that I think there's only one package that does post-hoc compensation. There are quite a few, dating all the way back to Bob Murphy's CALC4 program in the early 1980's on the PDP-11 and VAX systems. In fact, compensation is not unique to Flow Cytometry; scientists have been doing spillover correction (compensation) for liquid scintillation analysis since before I was born ("1980"). I would urge Ray and Rafael to re-read what I had written: "there's really only one package that can handle the complex needs of multicolor experiments, from off-line compensation of all the different colors to keeping track of the dozens (if not hundreds) of distinct gates applied to a single sample." While many packages can handle compensation, only one can really deal with the combination of (1) more than 8 parameters; (2) keeping data-base like track of dozens of gates; (3) automatically applying compensation matrices to the correct samples; (4) storing the many different compensation matrices required in a single experiment with gates, statistics, and analyses; and (5) presenting all of this information in a manner that can be managed by humans when dealing with these extremely complex analyses. FlowJo was originally written and developed at Stanford to deal precisely with the new hurdles & complexities of 5+ color immunophenotyping experiments; after it was commercialized by Tree Star, it has continued to evolve so as to serve a wide segment of the flow community. Finally, Rafael asks if off-line compensation is necessary for doing multi-color work. For most 3-color applications, and some 4-color, the answer is "no". For more than 4 colors, the answer is almost always yes--and this is because the current generation of hardware is not sufficiently adept at allowing correct compensation, easily-defined, and easily-changed on a sample-by-sample basis.)
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