Re: Would you use it Summary

From: Fareed Al Gurg (algurg7f@emirates.net.ae)
Date: Sat Sep 25 1999 - 01:29:41 EST


Roger A Burger wrote:
> 
> Thanks to all who replied to my message about an antibody shipment that was
> lost in shipping, finally arrived after 2 weeks and the manufacturer tech
> services telling me it would be just fine and to keep it.
> 
> In the end I refused shipment and the manufacturer sent another the next
> day.  Your advice was what I expected to hear with comments like,
> 
> "You are being shafted.  I would not use it, particularly for patient
> work...Absolutley not! "
> "Personally I wouldn't touch it with a barge pole"
> "Don't accept the old antibody!  Who knows how hot it got sitting around
> somewhere for 14 days."
> 'No, I would insist that the company send a new one"
> "As we are a clinical lab we parallel test all reagents and find some bad
> batches that are shipped in a timely manner. I never trust anything I don't
> test."
> 
> This is basically how I felt about the incident.
> 
> But some other interesting comments also surfaced,
> 
> "In my experience, room temp is not a problem unless there is the
> possibility of "things" growing in it.  However, excessive heat can
> denature the protein or cause aggregates.  I would try it. "
> 
> " I would use it I always got my BD MAB's at room temp. Antibodies seem to
> be pretty robust. I figure they are pretty stable when they are grown in
> culture at 37 degrees C. Or even in one's own body."
> 
> "...We normally ship at ambient temperature with no problems.  We have
> done shipping tests where we shipped to Europe and back at ambient temperature
> and the antibody was still ok.  PE. APC and PE-Cy5 are probably a little more
> sensitive."
> 
> These reponses piqued my interest.  I am always paranoid about reagent
> deterioration so I get my cells ready, add the antibody and return it to
> the cold cabinet as quickly as possible.  At times this poses an
> inconvenience and I would like to be able to allow an Ab to reach room temp
> without fear of loss of activity.  Some of the reponses to this inquiry
> help me relax a bit.
> 
> Thanks again for your input
> 
> Roger A. Burger , Ph.D.
> Research Assistant Professor,  Immunology
> Utah State University
> Logan, UT  84322-6895
> Voice: 435-797-2042
> FAX:  435-797-4054
> E-mail: Roger@cpd2.usu.edu
Dear Flowers,
Reading the responses that Roger got reminded me of a test I carried
out. While looking for some antisera in the -20 storage I came across
some old antisera (expiered more than 2 years)!
I decided to see how they compare. 
These where from BD, Dako, Coulter.
I tested them (CD19) against a fresh lot of Immunotech antisera.
The Coulter reagent was as good as fresh!
The Dako was a 2nd best.
The BD reagent was very close to negative!
Just an observation to show that you cannot always go by the book!

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Warmest regards from:
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Fareed Al-Gurg,		
Haematology,		 	
Dubai Hospital,		
Dubai - U.A.E.

Tel: (09714) 714444 / 7075447 / 512173
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