Re: macrophages/calcium

From: Gerhard Nebe-von-Caron (Gerhard.Nebe-von-Caron@Unilever.com)
Date: Wed May 19 1999 - 04:24:14 EST


          Do you get any sheath dropping back in your sample? If there 
          is something in the sheath, either antimicrobials or LPS or 
          so from the microcosm in the flow cytometer tubing that 
          could also account for the effect. Otherwise you should also 
          be able to create the stimulus prior to measuring with a 
          syringe.
          As another anecdotal remark in that context I share one of 
          my experiences from my early days in flow where I lost the 
          pressure supply in the middle of a set of experiments (e.g. 
          the compressor burnt out). I hurriedly hooked up a gas 
          bottle to the sheath tank and carried on. Worked just to 
          finish the experiment, but when I wanted to do some more 
          measurements a bit later I got rather funny effects every 
          time I took the sample off. Only when shutting down the 
          instrument in frustration I noticed that I had 'fizzy 
          sheath' that had degassed every time I purged the sample in 
          the old Ortho. In the panic I had not considered the effect 
          of pressurised CO2 on the sheath.
          
          Looking forward to the explanation of your stimulating 
          problem.
          
          Gerhard
          
          


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Subject: macrophages/calcium
Author:  RRABIN@niaid.nih.gov at INTERNET
Date:    18/05/1999 21:39


I want to thank all those that responded to my query about macrophages
fluxing calcium in response to pressure changes about a month ago.

I got many answers.  Most respondants suggested that the machine is dirty.
We know that not to be true, and the fact that the flux only occurs after
pulling the macrophages off the machine adn putting it back on suggests that
it is physical stimulation.  When we used the standard Vantage collection
apparatus, we decreased the calcium flux, but did not abrogate it.  We
tested this by putting the Vantage pressure tubing through the time zero
apparatus, and that improved but did not abrogate the problem.  We also
improved the calcium flux by turning down the sample pressure, but could not
abrogate the problem.

We actually have realized that the problem began when we replaced the top
part of the housing of the Time Zero apparatus because a small crack had
gotten to large.  In retrospect this crack was probably dampening the
pressure changes and allowed us to get good data.  We are going to try some
pressure sensitive valves in line to see if we can "reproduce" the crack.

Dr. Tarnok suggested the time-window method published in Cytometry, and we
may go to that.  We are also going to try it on a FACScan with Fura-red and
fluo-3 because the pressure of the fluidics is so much lower.

Thank you for your suggestions.

                                        ron


Ronald L. Rabin, M.D.
Clinical Associate
Cytokine Biology Unit, Laboratory of Clinical Investigation
National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases
National Institutes of Health
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