No I dont peter..in fact in my experience hematogones generally _do_ express CD10 and CD34 as well as TdT and some CD20. Commonly, there also tends to be a characteristic 'smear' of CD20 (CD20 is not necessarily on all CD19+ cells) and CD45 staining as well (which i *imagine* connotes a process of differentiation), vs most ALLs which are predominantly 'locked' (no CD45+/20+ smearing) into a clonal immunophenotype. The CD19 staining does tend to be 'clear cut' staining, if i understand your note- but this wouldnt help me distinguish ALL from the hematogone. I will agree this is a most difficult area for _just_ immunophenotyping; as you probably are aware there is a characteristic 'smudged' look to the dense chromatin with scant or absent nucleoli, and little cytoplasm. I always work this out with the morphologists when possible, although they also can find these calls challenging! fyi there is some information on pgs 258-9 in BONE MARROW PATHOLOGY, 1995 by K. Foucar, ASCAP press. At 05:35 PM 9/9/97 +1000, Peter Chapple wrote: > >Dear flow-ers, > >I have a couple of questions to ask of the list:- > >1. I have a patient with ALL (CD19+, CD10+, CD34+) who is post induction, with 21 bone marrow >which has a clear cut population of CD19+, CD10-, CD34- cells. In my book these are >haematogones. Does anyone know of a definative reference on this topic that I can use >to convince my collegues of this ?? > >2. I am keen to start including CD79a in my panel for lymphoid malignancies, unfortunately all the >CD791 clones I can locate are directed at intracellular domains on the antigen. What a pain to >include intracellular fix/perm steps for just 1 marker. Does anyone know of a CD79a clone directed at >one of the extracellular domains of this antigen ?? > >Thanks in advance > >Peter Chapple >Melbourne AUSTRALIA > > ````````````````````````````````````````````````` Frederic I. Preffer preffer@helix.mgh.harvard.edu Department of Pathology- Warren 525A 100 Blossom St Massachusetts General Hospital Boston MA 02114 v(617) 726-7481 fax (617) 724-3164 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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