Dear colleagues, to prevent flooding of the Purdue E-mail Box with the important but specialized issue of FCS-file formats, my suggestion is to transfer the discussion to: http://nucleus.immunol.washington.edu/cg-bin/netforum/new_topics/a/1 I *follow* Larry that a FCS-file format cannot replace a patient information system and also that the success of the FCS-file format should not be discarded so easily. Those of us who routinely handle a large variety of files generated by *multiple* users on *different* cytometers do, however, *fundamentally disagree* with the view that the generally produced FCS files are easy to handle by platform independent software. Randy's comments are well taken. The current multiplicity of FCS file isotypes was, indeed, generated by the creative spirits in the manufacturers software groups. Full advantage has been taken of the relatively high degree of freedom in implementing the FCS file format. We should see the present efforts for further development of the FCS standards as a new *challenge* due to recent and future requirements. The substantial work of the ISAC Standards Committee as well as the relatively close adherence of the manufacturers to the FCS file format has very significantly advanced the area of flow cytometric data processing and merits high appreciation. Nevertheless, a *significant need* for further action has been clearly identified and it seems reasonable that those who have problems with the present situation come up with a list of items that should be addressed. My list is at first glance relatively simple: 1. FCS files should permit automated import and retrieval of sample/patient (e.g. anonymized hospital ID) and assay information. 2. FCS files should provide the information how each parameter (e.g. FL1, PMT1, FITC, 560V, log4, 2bytes, 1024 resol) is specified *exclusively* in conjunction with the predefined FCS operators. 3. FCS file formats should conform to general regulations of the health care system (e.g. FDA), to GLP standards as well as to international technical standards (e.g. ISO) 4. Manufacturers should use reserved internal areas/operators for the storage of information which increases the performance of their own or of third party software. The information in these areas should *not* be required for platform independent data processing. Please direct your response to the above indicated Electronic Discussion Forum. Despite my high interest in this matter, the absence for a meeting in Atlanta next week and further absences during August will temporarily limit my input. Best regards G.Valet
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