A number of cents from my end (see purdue CD2 for further information) Key problem in non-ratiometric counting methods are system dead times and flow inconsistency. Make sure your reference particles are not out of scale in any signal as that can fool your electronics. Absolute counts for beads can be calculated accurately from % solids and diameter and polymer density (0.5u latex at 2.5% solids come at 3.64x10^11/ml) Absolute counts with the Coulter XL work very well as long as the acquisition rate is below 1300 events per second. When counting 100ul (five 20ul cavities) A display of time versus count tells you about clogging and excess flow rate (>300 on 300 second timescale). Unfortunately versionII software cuts of too early, so only the data for 80ul can be used. Counting methods - Fixed volume counting or volume integration : This method is used in most haematology analysers. The volume measurement is achieved by two electrodes acting as level sensors in a known geometric set-up (Partec CAII) or by loading a cavity in a ceramic valve (Coulter XL) or a loop made of tubing as done in high pressure liquid chromatography instruments. In all cases all events within the volume are measured. - Time integration : This approach is based on the assumption of a constant volume flow over time. It is best achieved by (syringe) pumps delivering the sample. Such systems are implemented in the Ortho Cytron absolute and the former Skatron Argus flow cytometer now Bio-Rad Bryte HS. - Spiking with reference particles (ratiometric counting) : This method can be used with all flow cytometers. It corrects for system dead times and the variations in flow rates that can occur in instruments that use differential pressure to deliver their samples. An example of bacterial counting using a bead standard is given in Figure 5. The tight cluster of beads also serves as an on line alignment control, particularly important when measuring environmental samples that are more likely to block the flow path. Cell disaggregation Single cell suspensions are essential for any form of accurate counting. Aggregates only give rise to one single colony or event. If for example one cell in a triplet is positive for a dead cell marker the whole aggregate is registered dead but will grow when sorted onto agar plates. Skin sample are far worth as hundreds of bacteria can be attached to a single squame. Cells can be dissaggregated by either chemical or mechanical methods. Mechanical methods have a broader application spectrum but can lead to problems with filamentous organisms. Shearing by needles leads to problems with clogging and is very tedious. Shearing with homogenisers is difficult with small volumes and causes problems with foaming and sample carryover. Ultrasonic treatment is the most convenient method, but it is important to apply reproducible energy levels. The geometry of the set-up and the material of the sample container has to be taken into consideration. When using a probe, energy loss can occur by coupling to ice cold water surrounding the sample container or by airbubbles trapped at the bottom of pointed vessels. Transmittable energy in an ultrasonic waterbath is sensitive to the level of water, its temperature and dissolved gas as well as its cleanliness. Soft container materials like polypropylene do absorb the energy in both systems. some points of discussion The high number of counts achieved by flow cytometry make the technique superior to others with the regard of counting accuracy. By careful pipetting technique and using 0.05% tween 20 to avoid cell sticking we could achieve counting variations within 1% of the expected numerical counting error. The detection sensitivity of optical systems is limited by the statistical abundance of an event and the signal intensity separating the event from background noise. To identify a cell cluster it is desirable to have at least 100 cells in it. Thus if there is one organism per µl in the final sample volume, 100µl have to be measured. Relative frequency is another limit to the measurement. To detect a log 3 reduction equivalent to an event frequency of 0.1% 100.000 events need to be screened to see 100 wanted cells. Good signal to noise ratio is therefore important, as, at lower relative frequency, the labelled cells are end up within the standard deviation of the unlabelled events. Signal to noise ratio is also limiting the speed of measurement, as with increased sample / volume throughput the variations broaden but in particular the background fluorescene increases due to free fluorochrome. We currently run flow rates below 10µl/min which leaves us with a practical sensitivity of approximately 10^3 within 10 minutes. Lower concentrations require patience or pre-enrichment by physical or biological means. Key problem in other counting methods are system dead times and flow inconsisteny. Make sure your reference particles are not out of scale in any signal as that can fool your electronics. Gerhard Nebe-v.Caron Unilever Research, Colworth, Sharnbrook, Bedfordshire GB - MK44 1LQ Tel: +44(0)1234-222066 FAX: +44(0)1234-222344 gerhard.nebe-von-caron@unilever.com ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: absolute counts Author: novod@muss.cis.mcmaster.ca at INTERNET Date: 26/02/97 22:37 Hello Everyone, I am trying to do absolute counts of bacteria. I have been using a kit but its about $100 for 100 samples. My problem is that the kit keeps dissapearing faster than the bottle of vodka I keep on the lab shelf for days that experiments don't work. I am wondering if anyone has a cheaper/longer lasting suggestion for absolute counting of cells on the FACScan.. Thanks for your help. I will compile the suggestions and post them for future reference. Dave *************************************************************************** I have nothing to put here that anyone would care about. But since everyone has one of these, I figured I should too . . . . . ***************************************************************************
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