Colleagues: Several months ago there was considerable discussion regarding lysing solutions. Sine this is probably one of the most frequently used reagents eveyone should know lots about it! I have encountered a small problem in finalizing the reagents for Current Protocols in Cytometry which is near publication. I proposed to place common reagents into the appendix, one of which is the following formula for "Lysing Solution". However, one author has refused to accept this as correct and I need to seek the wisdom of the great cytometry minds of the outernet! Question 1: Can you make up 10 x conc and store it as we propose? (my answer: well I've done it this way for 15 years - but somehow that's not a very scientific explanation.....) Question 2: Can you pH this solution and if so what do you use? (pH comes out at about 7.2 anyway-remembering these are carbonate buffers) Question 3: Is there any preference for disodium or tetra sodium EDTA (each at an appropriate concentration). (my answer: both seem to work fine at the correct conc) The proposed final formula is below. I would appreciate comments. I have about 2 days to make a decision - if I make the wrong one, cytometrey may for ever be changed ..(."my lysing solution doesn't work anymore...."!!). Thanks for the advice. ans if anyone knows what the ORIGINAL REFERENCE for this is, I'd like to know. Paul Robinson --------------------------------------------- Ammonium chloride lysing solution, 10x g NH4Cl (1.5 M) (final (.15M) g NaHCO3 (100 mM) (final 10 nm) g disodium EDTA (10 mM) (final 1 mM) Q.S. to 1 liter with H2O; pH will be approximately 7.2 store 6 months at 4degC Working solution: Dilute 1:10 with water to make fresh working lysing solution just before use. Keep working solution cold and discard any unused portion. This solution is used to lyse erythrocytes. Never store lysing solution at <10x concentration, as it will form ammonium carbonate, which will not lyse erythrocytes. ------------------------------------------------------------------ J.Paul Robinson, Purdue University Cytometry Labs Professor of Immunopharmacology robinson@flowcyt.cyto.purdue.edu PH:317-494 6449 FAX:317-494 0517 web http://www.cyto.purdue.edu
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