Re: Morphologic and Immunologic Terms for Lymphomas

From: Arber, Daniel (darber@smtplink.Coh.ORG)
Date: Tue Jan 14 1997 - 00:16:27 EST


     
Ken,

I would disagree with the idea that most people are moving from morphologic to 
purely immunologic and genetic classification of lymphomas, but I would agree 
that some posts in this group neglect the morphologic features of the tumors 
being discussed.  Modern classification of lymphoma combines all three of these 
features, and in most cases the morphologic features fit very well with the 
immunophenotype.  We should remember that the early morphologic classification 
systems did have clinical significance and should not be ignored.  Adding these 
other methods allows us to further define entities, but should not entirely 
replace the significance of the morphologic features.  When immunologic features
do not fit the morphologic features, I go back and review the morphology again. 
That is not to say that I will re-classify any case purely on its 
immunophenotype, but all of the available information should be put together to 
make an accurate diagnosis.  That is why I think the morphologic features, as 
well as the pattern of bone marrow involvement were important elements of the 
case that started this discussion.

Dan Arber

  

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Subject: Morphologic and Immunologic Terms for Lymphomas
Author:  aultk.mmcwp4@mmc.org at INTERNET
Date:    1/8/97 9:46 AM


   I have been "listening" to the discussion about the
confusion between terms like "follicular lymphoma" and 
specific immunophenotypes with interest because this is a 
topic of interest to me for many years.  At the risk of 
offending some of my good friends on this list I would like to 
add my two cents to the discussion and maybe expand it 
somewhat.
   I think that we are all gratified that the continual evolution in
lymphoma classification has begun to utilize 
immunophenotypic descriptions more and more - this is long 
overdue.  However, we must remember that all of the 
historical classifications, especially those including such 
terms as "follicular", "mantle", etc. are based on (highly 
subjective in my view) morphology.  We now seem to be in a 
transition phase between morphologic descriptions and 
immunophenotypic and genetic definitions of these diseases.
  We are asking for a lot of confusion, and we are doing
ourselves a disservice,  if we keep trying to align morphologic 
descriptions with specific immunophenotypes.
   In my view, it is especially unfortunate when we create new
disease entities based not upon clinical criteria but upon 
variations in our own classification systems.  For example: 
is a CD10 positive follicular lymphoma a different disease 
than CD10 negative follicular lymphoma?  We shouldn't 
mistake a failure of our multiple classification systems for 
new diseases!
  This may a lengthy restatement of the obvious, but I needed
to say it - and I feel better now!
   Ken Ault
     



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