Hi Eric, Sounds like you have put an excellent program together. Last year we set up a new Immunology paper for 90 third year undergraduate science students (ages 18- 20 plus a few mature students). It has a total of 84 hours teaching including 12 hours of practical laboratory classes. One of the practical classes included interpretation of human flow data (relatively straightforward stuff, PBMC from one normal and one leukemic, two colour with markers defining major subsets only). They also looked at some blood and marrow smears, purified PBMC using ficoll, and did some T cell E-rosettes to fill out the three hours of the class. But for the flow interpretation we just gave them the 2D dot plots and stats, rather than getting them to start with the raw listmode files (let alone doing the staining or running cells though the flow themselves - we didn't want to be too ambitious for the first year of a new course, and having a class of 90 students can put big demands on eqipment). I'd be most grateful for any other info and / or advice you could offer on this type of exercise as a prac class. eg how long did they need? How much did they get done in the formal class setting versus analysis, background reading etc outside formal class hours? How did your students find it in terms of degree of interest? difficulty? workload (ours tell us they are badly overworked but I guess they all say that!) ? I am looking forward to checking out your web pages and software. Could you possibly send me a copy of your class handouts and graphics, as mentioned in your reply to Dr. Pothet (snail mail to the address below, or EMail attachment). Many thanks, Lachy McLean ------------- ********* -------------- Lachy McLean Senior Lecturer in Clinical Immunology Department of Molecular Medicine, University of Auckland Private Bag 92019, Auckland 1, New Zealand Tel: 64-9-373-7599 ext 6170 (office) ext 6199 (lab) Fax 64-9-373-7492 EMail: l.mclean@auckland.ac.nz
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